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Oh man, this article really took me back. I used to read about him in high school and came to a similar set of conclusions as you did—though not with this level of detail. One small nitpick, though: I think it’s worth emphasizing that Hong actively rejected Confucianism. Not surprising given his repeated failures in the imperial civil service exams, and the entire system that upheld them was rooted in Confucian classics and ideals.

That said, the “Chinese” elements in his syncretic theology don’t really stem from Confucianism but rather a fusion of Taoist mysticism, Buddhist eschatology, and early pre-Confucian theology and social structure &organization as found in ancient Chinese cosmological texts—ironically, many of which are embedded within the Confucian canon, like the Four Books and Five Classics. So in a sense, he may have mined from pre-Confucian worldviews while rejecting the Confucian moral framework those same texts came to represent. So imagine reading only the Old Testament to construct an entirely different theology, all while rejecting the mainstream religious interpretation that incorporates it.

It also gets really interesting when you look at how Hong might’ve conceptualized the Christian God. His references to "Shangdi" (The Lord on High), sometimes referred to as "Di" or "Tian"—a term for a supreme heavenly deity found in pre-Confucian belief systems—suggest he fused the idea of the Christian God with native Chinese monotheistic traditions. Historically, “Shangdi” was first used by Jesuits to refer to the Christian God when they began their missionary work in the late Ming and early Qing dynasties. But the term was changed in favor of “Tianzhu” (Lord of Heaven) in 1715 by Pope Clement XI, because TL;DR: the Christian God is the creator of the universe, whereas Shangdi is merely a divine ruler within an existing cosmology.

However, Protestant missionaries, the ones from whom Hong learned Christianity, continued using "Shangdi" into the 19th century, only clarifying their meaning 13 years *after* the rebellion ended to distinguish the Christian God from the original Chinese cosmological figure. So all this fusion and confusion—perhaps throw in widespread discontent with the current social order in the form of the ruling Qing in its latter years and the accompanying racism towards the ruling Manchus for safe measure—ended up creating proto-unitarian millenarian theology that evolved based on Hong's own understanding of it. Also, a bit of a tangent, but the character of Hong's own surname is the same as "flood", as in the Great Flood of Noah, a wild coincidence that he emphasized a lot and set the tone for the amount of death and destruction that followed in his wake as his rebellion unfolded.

Anyways, end of ramble. Thanks again for writing this—it was a great read and brought a lot back to mind!

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Well written, Germanicus! Learned a whole lot from this and it's helpful in expanding consciousness. I don't know much about Chinese history but I'm glad to read about it. I do see the parallels with testing here and there, despite the time gap: these tests are remarkably limited in what they claim to "test" and it is not free from considerable flaws.

Thanks for the shout out! I'm thrilled to be a part of your work here!

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